Daddy Issues


We’ve had a lot of stories so far about not-so-great fathers: “The Rockpile,” “What is Seized,” and now “Fiesta, 1980.” They contain similar plot elements and characteristics in the fathers that cause us to dislike them. For instance, the coldness that made us hate the father in “What is Seized” is also present in a glimpse in “Fiesta, 1980.” When Papi supposedly comes home from seeing “that Puerto Rican woman,” “he didn’t say nothing to nobody, not even my mom. He just pushed past her, help up his hand when she tried to talk to him and headed right into the shower.” This is somewhat similar to the father in “What is Seized,” who “turned his head away from [the mother], and afterward would give her a hard angry gaze, roll stiffly over to his side of the bed, face the wall, shake her off of him,” if she ever touched him. Both of these father figures don’t show any affection whatsoever toward their wives, and it’s really sad to see.

Another similarity is between the dads in “The Rockpile” and “Fiesta, 1980.” Both teach masculinity to their sons as a form of repression of their emotions--and, well, other things, as Papi makes Yunior hold back his puke whenever he rides in their car. He believes that somehow giving Yunior a glare and just being like, “No way. Don’t do it,” will stop the throw-up in its tracks. And then, when Yunior can’t prevent himself from puking because it’s literally a bodily function, his father punishes him. Yunior also has all of these pent-up feelings and aggressions toward his father that he is unable to express, just like Johnnie in “The Rockpile” and “The Outing.” When his father is obviously treating Roy as his favorite and deliberating picking on Johnnie at the church gathering, Johnnie “called back [at him] (putting into his voice as much asperity, as much fury and hatred as he dared).” He felt much more than he dared to express towards his father because of his father’s strict authority and lack of tolerance. This toxic dynamic between the son and father in “The Rockpile” and “Fiesta, 1980,” is one of the main reasons I (and maybe other people, too) aligned myself with the sons and was encouraged to dislike the father figures.

I also want to point out, though, that there are aspects of the fathers that set them apart in these stories as well. For example, neither of the fathers in “The Rockpile” or “What is Seized” would dare make their troublesome family situation known in public. They both act like everything is perfectly normal, and if one of their sons does something to anger them in public, they let it go (at least, temporarily). In “What is Seized,” even though the father is cold at home, he “seemed to know how to get people to like him, to do crazy stunts with furniture or time-rate problems…. People in Crasden seemed to think he was amazing somehow. Special, they said. Talented.” They don’t get to see the dark side of him that the narrator and mother do get to see. Similarly, in “The Rockpile”/ “The Outing,” when Johnnie lashes back at his father in public, he speaks very coldly, angrily, and sarcastically, and “he knew that his father would then and there have knocked him down if they had not been in the presence of saints and strangers.” His father does not knock him down because there are people around. These two stories are different from “Fiesta, 1980,” where Yunior’s father is perfectly okay with humiliating him in front of everyone. When the food is brought out at the party and Yunior joins the other kids at the table with his plate, his father comes over and says, “Oh no you don’t, and [takes] the paper plate out of [his] hand.” When Tía asks what’s wrong, Papi says loudly, “He ain’t eating…. Because I said so.” This situation is uncomfortable for everyone and “the adults who didn’t know us made like they hadn’t heard a thing.”  Papi’s behavior really reflects poorly on him, and his willingness to treat his son this way in a public setting reflects the terrible situation back at home, and it makes other people like Tía feel concerned and question if their family is okay.

Comments

  1. I think this is a really interesting comparison to make. I agree that unhealthy relationships with fathers or rather cold fathers is something that's been really important to a lot of the stories we've read recently. The comparison you make between Gabriel and Papi in how they enforce a type of emotional repression and masculinity is really great.

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  2. I had also noticed that several of the stories we've read are about abusive/ cold fathers. You do a good job of pointing out all the similarities between the three father figures. However, I hadn't noticed that Papi was the only one willing to publicly humiliate his son. I think it's an important point as it shows a slightly different kind of family dynamic.

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  3. Honestly so many of the stories in this class have reminded me of the popular saying "men are trash". Specifically, in this case, fathers. I wonder if Papi having no issue humiliating his child in public is more of a cultural thing, since they're the only immigrant family out of these three examples. One thing's for certain- abusive, shitty fathers definitely leave a mark on their kids.

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  4. A growing important aspect of American culture it seems in the time of the stories, is not letting others around you in on your struggles. This can be seen both in terms of masculinity but also in terms of plain pride. You make good comparisons. I like how you are drawing two books together, moving beyond just the stories.

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  5. I saw a really similar dynamic between the sons and the fathers in "The Rockpile"/"The Outing" and "Fiesta, 1980". I like how you pointed out there is that difference in public humiliation in the stories. I think that Gabriel is hyper-concerned with their family image because of his position in the church. However, I do think it's important to note that when Johnnie talks back to Gabriel across the boat, Gabriel does kinda humiliate him (but mostly in front of David, not in front of adults that "matter" for his standing as a pastor).

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  6. I wrote my blog post on a similar comparison and no doubt, the two families in Diaz and Baldwin's writing are very similar. One thing I didn't mention in the blog but that I will bring up now was an interesting difference between Johnnie and Yunior. While they both despise their fathers and show anger and even thoughts of lashing out, at the end of the day, Yunior enjoys what little time is spent with his father in the car rides even if he is treated badly at other times. We see nothing like this for Johnnie. It could be that they are just different characters, but I thought it was something interesting to point out.

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  7. I definitely think that's a recurring theme, as well as this questionable 'traditional' masculinity among the sons of these rather abusive fathers. It seems the more the fathers humiliate the sons and tell them to 'man up', the less (?) they actually do so. Or perhaps it's the opposite way around—because the sons in the story are weak and not masculine enough, their fathers pick on them.

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